Service to others is one of our company values because we aspire to help others and genuinely enjoy doing so. In fact, I love working with people and for people. I’m sincere, friendly and helpful where I can be.
To some extent I will even shoulder blame and aggression if it makes it easier for both sides because I try to be assertive and not take it too personally. That is until it starts to get ridiculous! which is exactly what has happened during my efforts to create a PayPal Business Account for Worknow.
How NOT to create a PayPal Account
I had assumed (my bad) that a service provider – PayPal – that deals with millions of transactions a year would have evolved to the point of making the “sign up” process easy which is why it took me three attempts at creating a PayPal Account before I recognised that the failed attempts were actually NOT due to my human error.

- https://www.paypal.com/nz > Select Business Tab
- Accept credit cards and PayPal. Customers shop on your site and pay on pages securely hosted by PayPal > Click
- Sign up for a premiere Business Account > Click
- Create your PayPal Account – NZ check > English check > Business: or merchants who use a company or group name > “Get Started”
- Account Sign Up: Business Account – Enter business information > primary contact information > primary contact address > “Continue”
- Prompted to enter additional business owner details > “Continue”
- But instead of a page for confirming details, as the above breadcrumb indicates I am moved to the page shown below which begins:-
WARNING: You must log in before you access this page
PROBLEM: seeing as I haven’t created the account yet and haven’t entered a password, I think I must have made a mistake.

Pay Pal Account Set Up: Attempt II
Now, because at first I attempted to “skip the step” of adding owner details I again assumed it might have been the systems annoying, albeit effective, attempt to make me offer more complete information. Except second attempt, owner information included and BANG! same result: WARNING: You must log in before you access this page.
What the?
- Check my email in case there’s some kind of auto generated password. NO
- OK try “forgot password” only to return the error saying the system does not recognise my email. Little wonder since I haven’t finished registering yet. Maybe its just a glitch?
- Go back….TIMED OUT!!!!

Pay Pal Account Set Up: Attempt III
So I enter all the company contact and owner details, again, with the exact same result WARNING: You must log in before you access this page. Vindicated, I decide it’s time to contact support, surely they can help – another of the bad assumptions I made during this process…
PayPal Customer Service FAILS to help
I work through the maze that is designed to deter people from actually contacting support to discover they only provide a US phone number so I choose to email:-
Original message:
——–
Form Message
customer subject: I am creating a business account.
customer message: Additional Information: ’After entering other owner information I select continue and am asked to login.
But I have not yet entered a password and the system does not recognise the email address I have attempted to register.
I am frustrated as I have now entered business registration information three times. I just want to set up an account
Please call +## ## ## ### ## (GMT+##) or email with solution.
Kind regards,
Renee Lee
New Zealand’
AUTO RESPONDER: at last count x 6
Thanks for your email. We’ll do our best to get back to you within 24
hours. It might take a bit longer (depending on the question), but we
try hard not to keep you waiting longer than 72 hours. Blah blah blah…
♫
WEBFORM RESPONSE:
Enable to best assist you, kindly contact us over the phone so that we
can search for your account and help you log into it.I’ll be glad to hear from you if you need clarification. Just give us a call at 1-402-935-2050 and we will try our best to give you immediate
answers. Thank you for choosing
PayPal for your online payment needs. We
appreciate your business.
Sincerely,
Dayna
PayPal Consumer Support
PayPal, an eBay Company
RENEE to Webform
Please note the account has not been created as I could not finish the process.
I am in New Zealand & I do not want to call the US which is the only number I can see listed on your website.
Who do I contact in New Zealand?
WEBFORM RESPONSE:
Thank you for contacting PayPal, my name is Pauline and I am happy to assist you today. I am sorry to hear that you are having difficulties setting up a business PayPal account. I showed that with the email address you used, you already have an account with us. We may be able to assist you better if you call the Australian Customer service number as we also handle New Zealand accounts.You may contact the PayPal Customer Service Agents at (02) 8223 9500/1800-073-263
The remainder of the email advises that I can email them using the “Contact Us” link on the website? OK so you mean exactly how I got in touch in the first place? righto.
So I am starting to get a little frustrated at this point because it does not appear that anyone believes this to be a simple technical glitch. It seems to me they are placing the blame squarely with me as the user because I have and want to retain use of my persoanl account.
RENEE to webform
Congratulations, I do have a personal account registered to this email. But that is irrelevant.
I require a completely separate business account, registered to an entirely different email and your system is broken in that I can not complete registration.
I do not want to go to the expense of making an international call. I have already spent too much time attempting to register and responding to these emails which do not yet address my concern.
How about you guys have someone on your team phone me please +64 ## ##### ### or has anyone attempted to register to test the fault and maybe get your web team to look at it?
Increasingly frustrated.
Renee Lee
Worknow Ltd
enter eBay: customer service becomes even worse
By this time I’m starting to realise that making the phone call is probably going to save me time and I’ve put it in my diary as a to do for tomorrow but then I receive the following email:-
Dear eBay member,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to PayPal.
On reviewing your email, I see that the assistance you need is related to PayPal, so I’ve forwarded your mail to a PayPal agent, who will review it and get back to you as quickly as possible.
In the future, if you have questions or concerns about PayPal, you can contact them directly. Here’s how:
- Log in to your PayPal account and send a secure email from this page: http://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_help&t=escalateTab
- Call 1-888-221-1161
Although PayPal is a subsidiary of the eBay Corporation, your account information for eBay and PayPal are kept on two different databases forsecurity purposes. As an eBay agent, I am unable to access your PayPal account.
We are committed to making your eBay experiences pleasant and fulfilling.
Sincerely,
Robby J.
eBay Customer Support
Apparently my responses have been forwarded and now I’m being politely told that I have contacted the wrong people.
RENEE to eBay
Oh my gosh what are you guys up to? Get it together.
I never emailed your team at ebay & I have no idea why you guys are now also offering me irrelevant advice.
This is not only frustrating but I’m now starting to feel harassed.
I’m going to start posting your stupid responses to twitter … #FAIL #Paypal #ebay
Sort it out
Renee Lee
Worknow Ltd
And so we have it. They are probably to big to care about my few hundred twitter followers but if there’s one thing I know is that you don’t make empty threats. So voila!
Opportunity & Learning from Challenges
The best possible outcome is to have learned from these type of challenges right? so what have I learned?
- Do not implicitly trust in size or technology
- Communication can create conflict. Conflict can create poor communication.
- Get informed, learn what has / is going on before moving forward. If it doesn’t make sense ask for clarification.
- Become more aware of the many assumptions I make, in order to make fewer.
- Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Perhaps that number for Australian customer services was an opportunity.
Escalate NOW
PS: Received after publishing this blog. At least I’m back to being harassed by PayPal which is of course why the following advice sounds so familiar….
Dear R. M. Lee,
Thank you for contacting PayPal.
I am your frustration regarding your concern. I reviewed your account with your lee0007@gmail.com email address and I can see that there is already an existing personal account. If you would like to, you can upgrade this to a business account so that you need not to sign up for a new account. I have asked one of our supervisors and they said that we are not having issues right now with account registration.
To upgrade your Premier account to a Business account, follow these steps:
1. Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.
2. Click “Profile” at the top of the page.
3. Click the “Personal/Business Information” link in the Account
Information column.
4. Click “Upgrade.”
5. Enter your business information and click “Submit.”
If you require more information other than what I have provided, you can also give us a call at 1-402-935-2080 and we will try our best to give you immediate answers. Thank you for choosing PayPal for your online needs. We appreciate your business.
Sincerely,
Jo Anne
PayPal, an eBay Company
Pay Pal Admission of Fault
After three days and 30 emails (includes auto responders) finally someone admits that there was a fault in the system and suggested I could start a personal account and upgrade once resolved.
We are aware of this issue and I sincerely regret the inconvenience it has caused you. Our technicians are working to resolve this matter. We appreciate your patience and understanding
Being told the PayPal system was broken was a great result as compared to the condescending and complete lack of service I received up until the admission of fault.
In the end I felt it was all a too little like the National Governments talk of mining our National Parks and am left wondering whether all the preceding confusion and conflict was designed simply to divert energy and lessen the impact of the final outcome.